"Luc - The Acadian Oppo" (luc5)
05/19/2015 at 00:26 • Filed to: PROJECT BIG STEEL
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"Luc - The Acadian Oppo" (luc5)
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I’m pretty new to carbureted engines and my truck has a hose from the valve cover vent(PVC valve?) to the front of the carb. is there a purpose for that? what is it for?.
picture is for illustration only this is not my truck.
Zipppy, Mazdurp builder, Probeski owner and former ricerboy
> Luc - The Acadian Oppo
05/19/2015 at 00:30 |
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Likely part of an earlier PCV system, quite a few cars have it.
beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard
> Luc - The Acadian Oppo
05/19/2015 at 00:30 |
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same as when the PCV is hosed to the throttle body or intake manifold on an EFI engine. to reduce emissions to atmosphere.
EL_ULY
> Luc - The Acadian Oppo
05/19/2015 at 00:32 |
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Early emissions. Positive Crankcase :] All gasses captured, recirculated, and burned.
Most Volvo and early Aston keep a negative crankcase. Once the emission device fails, the crankcase goes from vacuum to pressure and boom go all your seals.
StoneCold
> Luc - The Acadian Oppo
05/19/2015 at 00:33 |
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PCV shenanigans:
http://www.americanmuscle.com/ford-valvecove…
Axial
> EL_ULY
05/19/2015 at 00:36 |
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That sounds utterly retarded...
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StoneCold
> Axial
05/19/2015 at 00:37 |
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“That sounds utterly ridiculous...”
Same point gotten across, none of the offensiveness.
lonestranger
> Luc - The Acadian Oppo
05/19/2015 at 00:38 |
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You answered your own question.
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Luc - The Acadian Oppo
> EL_ULY
05/19/2015 at 00:38 |
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it that something that is required? not for emissions I don’t care about that but for the truck to run properly? If I put some breathers instead would that have a negative effect?
Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
> StoneCold
05/19/2015 at 00:41 |
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Well technically it does slow things down a bit...
BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast.
> Luc - The Acadian Oppo
05/19/2015 at 00:43 |
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Positive Crankcase Ventilation. It actively draws air through and out of the crank case, rather than passively letting it try to dissipate.
The carburetor draws vacuum on the internal airspace in the engine such as under the valve covers, to reduce impedance to the oiling and cooling systems and the air pressure changes from the undersides of the pistons. Not all of that volume is filled with oil or coolant, and anything that might create increases in air-pressure in that enclosed space puts back-pressure on the spinning assembly or the oil circulation system.
air-suspended oil droplets, water vapor, and unburned gaseous fuel mixture is suspended in the airspaces of the crank case, they also get drawn out by the engine’s intake vacuum, and re-cycled through the carburetor or fuel injection manifold, and re-burned in subsequent engine cycles, reducing hydrocarbon emissions, as well.
The PCV valve is basically a check-valve that allows air to be drawn out or to dissipate out, but the valve closes if there is greater pressure outside the engine than in, prohibiting reverse flow of air back into the engine from the intake tract, which is rare on an atmospheric engine, but more common on a forced-induction engine, with supercharging or turbo-charging, if the PCV system is down-stream between the compressor and the throttle body or carburetor.
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Axial
> StoneCold
05/19/2015 at 00:44 |
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No, I meant it as I said it. As in, the people who came up with that arrangement had to be handicapped.
I genuinely take offense to people taking offense at that usage of the word. It’s not a slight against people who suffer from the condition, it’s using people who have that condition as a reference point for the behavior of another who does not share it and, as such, has no excuse for that behavior. You can take offense all you want, but that offense is objectively misplaced by the concrete rules of sentence structure in the English language.
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EL_ULY
> Luc - The Acadian Oppo
05/19/2015 at 00:45 |
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Not in this engine’s case (no pun intended) It won’t effect anything if you do that i think.
FYI, my dad had one of these trucks for work back then and that thing went way passed the 600k mark. Only big job besides maintenance was that he re-ringed it and got new heads. Turns out the mechanic bored it out a bit and put performance heads. It was a gift for installing some exhaust fans in his paint booth. My dad said it hauld ass afterwards lol
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Luc - The Acadian Oppo
> EL_ULY
05/19/2015 at 00:51 |
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PERFECT ! Out it goes! There is so many hose and lines under there that don’t look like they really do anything other that emissions bullshit. My air cleaner is not sitting right on the carb cause someone messed with it at some point so I want to replace it with a plane jane round air cleaner bottom without all the hoses going to it.
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StoneCold
> Axial
05/19/2015 at 01:01 |
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Huh. So not derogatory. At all.
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When they were originally introduced, the terms “mental retardation” or “mentally retarded” were medical terms with a specifically clinical connotation; however, the pejorative forms, “retard” and “retarded” have been used widely in today’s society to degrade and insult people with intellectual disabilities. Additionally, when “retard” and “retarded” are used as synonyms for “dumb” or “stupid” by people without disabilities, it only reinforces painful stereotypes of people with intellectual disabilities being less valued members of humanity.
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Axial
> StoneCold
05/19/2015 at 01:28 |
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Retard is a verb that means “to slow.” It’s a general effect on a process. The clinical definition piggybacks on that and applies it to people suffering from conditions whereby their mental processes appear slowed. Using it to describe anybody exhibiting reduced faculties, through choice or chance, is appropriate. That there happens to be a standard reference point to be used in illustration is just a boon for efficient communication. If people never suffered from mental disorders, you can still, accurately, describe their behavior as retarded.
Would you take offense to the usage of ‘baby’, another group of people which exhibit negative characteristics being referred to but have no control over that condition, if somebody said you were acting like one?
Your answer had better be yes, or the entire basis for your position falls out from underneath you.
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StoneCold
> Axial
05/19/2015 at 02:13 |
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“The clinical definition piggybacks on that and applies it to people suffering from conditions whereby their mental processes appear slowed.”
Guess what; you’re behind the times. Mental retardation hasn’t been accepted for half a decade now since it was substituted in federal laws and policies with ‘intellectual disability’ by Rosa’s Law.
“Using it to describe anybody exhibiting reduced faculties, through choice or chance, is appropriate.”
No, it’s degrading. Period. You nor I do not get a say in this. They do:
http://www.r-word.org/r-word-effects…
You’re trying to say you aren’t hurting the people you’re hurting because you’re right. You don’t get to make that call.
“That there happens to be a standard reference point to be used in illustration is just a boon for efficient communication. If people never suffered from mental disorders, you can still, accurately, describe their behavior as retarded.”
Stereotyping is not efficient communication. It’s a blanket generalization that hurts a large group of people.
“Would you take offense to the usage of ‘baby’, another group of people which exhibit negative characteristics being referred to but have no control over that condition, if somebody said you were acting like one?”
You’re not comparing two similar groups. Everyone in the history of humanity has been a baby, and that comes with a set of characteristics that are universal. You’re alienating a specific group of people right now and dismissing them as lesser. So this example is off-base.
And to be clear, I’m not the one taking offense, only the one calling you out on being a dick. First rule of Oppo: Don’t be a dick. Even if you didn’t think you were. And it’s so easy to pick something else. YOU HAD SO MANY OTHER CHOICES.
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Axial
> StoneCold
05/19/2015 at 02:58 |
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There’s no being behind the times with basic English (actually French, but whatever), and you are the one who set that connotation up. My connotations for the word lie with engineering and music rather than medicine, anyway, so that entire argument is a bunch of tears in the rain. Whether or not the word is still used clinically is entirely irrelevant, it still has the same basic definition and it is still an accurate descriptor of changes in process behavior no matter what that process is.
As for the baby analogy, your counter-point doesn’t hold. It’s still referencing to the negative aspects of some state of being in what you called a derogatory fashion (though what is derogatory is subjective by definition); universality is irrelevant. Using the term “childish” is the same. Nobody likes being implied as acting childish, and children don’t like hearing their demographic being referenced in negative manner. I know I didn’t when I was little.
And it is definitely efficient communication. Not all babies and children act the same, but you know exactly what I mean when I say somebody is acting like either one. Similarly, not all mental disorders display retarded mental processing, but you know exactly what I mean when somebody is acting as such. Not all Volkswagens break down after 3 years/60,000 miles, but you know exactly what I mean when I imply a car has “Volkswagen reliability.” It’s efficient. It gets the point across. It doesn’t matter if you don’t like it, you cannot reasonably say it doesn’t do either of those things.
Finally, “don’t be a dick” applies to us talking among ourselves, and from where I sit you initiated this conflict. You could have just rolled your eyes and moved on (and you probably should have, because you are using subjectivity and feelings to wage war on objectivity and linguistic efficiency), but instead chose to take offense (taking offense is a choice, not compulsive unless you suffer from a disorder) and tried to alter my language to be in alignment with your values. So I chose to take offense right back at your meddling and, in more rational words, told you to pound sand .
Have a good night.
desertdog5051
> EL_ULY
05/19/2015 at 03:10 |
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I don’t understand why you would recommend bypassing that. It actually does serve a purpose. As dirty running as those engines are, it still helps to re-burn vapors from the crankcase. Unless it is passing so much oily vapor, that it is messing up the carbs operation or causing something else to work badly, it should be left intact. Sorry for the minor rant.
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StoneCold
> Axial
05/19/2015 at 04:33 |
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“There’s no being behind the times with basic English”
Yes, there is. Words like negro became inappropriate to use over time. “Retarded” is becoming inappropriate also. Someone has to tell you it’s not okay anymore.
“My connotations for the word lie with engineering and music rather than medicine, anyway”
That’s a bold-faced lie. You meant the connotation of being stupid, and tried to defend it using the outdated or not applicable denotative definitions.
“Whether or not the word is still used clinically is entirely irrelevant, it still has the same basic definition and it is still an accurate descriptor of changes in process behavior no matter what that process is.”
The clinical connotation stuff in that post is a direct quote (From “How...to ...humanity.”) from the site I keep posting. More on that at the end.
“As for the baby analogy, your counter-point doesn’t hold. It’s still referencing to the negative aspects of some state of being in what you called a derogatory fashion (though what is derogatory is subjective by definition); universality is irrelevant.”
Universality is very much relevant. ‘Childish’ and ‘Baby-like’ are referring to stages for every single human being. No one is excluded. They are defined as stages where a human being lacks knowledge and experience, but (BUT!!) they evolve past that. So calling someone childish or a baby is a reference that can be accepted since everyone can understand it. What not everyone can understand is being intellectually disabled, and you are excluding them and perpetuating a social norm that they are not fully grown human beings as capable.
“The word retard is considered hate speech because it offends people with intellectual and developmental disabilities as well as the people that care for and support them. It alienates and excludes them. It also emphasizes the negative stereotypes surrounding people with intellectual and developmental disabilities; the common belief that people with intellectual and developmental disabilities should be segregated, hidden away from society, which, in my opinion, is really old fashioned.” – Karleigh Jones, Special Olympics New Zealand athlete
I’m trying to get across to you that I AM NOT THE ONE WHO STARTED SAYING USING ‘RETARDED’ IS WRONG AND HURTFUL. The people you refer to as ‘mentally retarded’ are! You’re trying to defend yourself with definitions, examples of other words, fucking efficiency (Efficiency?! Really?! That can justify being a stereotype-perpetuating jerk?), but you’re side stepping the bigger point.
You. Don’t. Get. To. Say. You. Aren’t. Hurting. Someone.
“Finally, “don’t be a dick” applies to us talking amongst ourselves, and from where I sit you initiated this conflict.”
No, it applies to being a dick in general. It’s most often used for intra-forum drama here.
“You could have just rolled your eyes and moved on (and you probably should have, because you are using subjectivity and feelings to wage war on objectivity and technical accuracy), but instead chose to take offense (taking offense is a choice, not compulsive unless you suffer from a disorder) and tried to alter my language to be in alignment with your values. So I chose to take offense right back at your meddling and, in more rational words, told you to pound sand .”
No. This isn’t subjective. There is a large group of people representing the faction of humanity with intellectual disabilities that say you are being discriminatory: http://www.r-word.org/r-word-effects…
The group you are referring to gets to decide whether your value is right or wrong. You don’t.
“You could have just rolled your eyes and moved on (and you probably should have, because you are using subjectivity and feelings to wage war on objectivity and technical accuracy)“
I’m letting you know that your ‘objective’ thinking on this matter is not appropriate anymore. Someone has to call you out and say it’s not okay to be like this on Oppositelock. Oh, and yes, your words are so rational . So very rational .
450X_FTW
> Luc - The Acadian Oppo
05/19/2015 at 07:03 |
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I took it off my dirt bike for racing, don’t need any more contaminants going thru the carb than there already is. Just vent to atmosphere. And when parked for a while I always plug it just to make sure condensation does not build up in the line or worse back into the crank case.
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EL_ULY
> desertdog5051
05/19/2015 at 09:07 |
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It’s all good buddy, i’d think more than anything the gases will be too oily due to it’s age and he’ll have carbon build up issue because of it even if it runs good.
MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
> Luc - The Acadian Oppo
05/19/2015 at 13:24 |
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I took mine off the Montego a whiiiiile ago and went with a breather cap instead.
It’s all good